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Families on the Frontiers of the Old South

Alix de France, Countess Ponthieu[1]

Female 1160 - Aft 1213  (52 years)


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  • Name Alix de France 
    Suffix Countess Ponthieu 
    Born 4 Oct 1160  [2
    Gender Female 
    Marriage Mar 1186  Gisors, Normandy, France Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Betrothal to Duke Richard 
    • "It looks as though the agreement of March 1186 had failed to establish beyond all possibility of argument whether or not the Angevins could keep the Vexin if Alice remained unmarried. Unquestionably, if either Richard or John had married her, it would have added plausibility to Philip's claim that this vital territory was his sister's marriage portion and, as such, might one day be returned to France. If, on the other hand, Henry II wished to maintain that the Vexin belonged of old to Normandy and was therefor his by hereditary right, it was safer not to confuse the issue by marrying Alice to one of his sons. Whatever the legal rights and wrongs, so long as the Angevins actually held Gisors they were negotiating from a position of strength and could reasonably hope that one day a king of France would be forced to concede their case. The fate of Alice, more than twenty-five years in the king of England's custody without ever being married, has puzzled modern historians just as much as contemporary ones. Gossip said that the Old King had seduced her and that Richard would not marry his father's mistress." [3]
    France, 1180
    France, 1180
    Also Known As Alys 
    Died After Jan 1213 
    Person ID I13336  Dickinson
    Last Modified 27 Nov 2017 

    Father Louis VII, King of the Franks,   b. 1120, Paris, Île-de-France, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Sep 1180, Saint-Pont, Allier Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Mother Constanza de Castilla, Queen consort of France,   b. ca. 1138,   d. 6 Oct 1160  (Age ~ 22 years) 
    Relationship Birth 
    Married 1154  Cathedral of Sainte Croix, Orléans Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Family ID F4006  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Guillaume II de Ponthieu, Count Ponthieu,   b. After 1178,   d. 6 Oct 1221  (Age ~ 42 years) 
    Married 20 Aug 1195  Mantes, Yvelines, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
    +1. Marie de Ponthieu, Countess de Ponthieu,   b. Bef 17 Apr 1199,   d. Sep 1250  (Age ~ 51 years)  [Birth]
    Last Modified 3 Oct 2014 
    Family ID F4005  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsMarriage - Betrothal to Duke Richard - Mar 1186 - Gisors, Normandy, France Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 20 Aug 1195 - Mantes, Yvelines, France Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S336463] Medieval Lands: A prosopography of medieval European noble and royal families, Charles Cawley, (Online: The Foundation for Medieval Genealogy at http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/, 20XX), http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/CAPET.htm#Alixdiedafter1200MGuillaumeIIIPonthieu.

    2. [S336465] Eleanor of Aquitaine: A Life, Alison Weir, (New York: Ballantine iBook, 2008), 259.

    3. [S422] Richard I (English Monarchs Series), John Gillingham, (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999), 81-2.

    4. [S422] Richard I (English Monarchs Series), John Gillingham, (New Haven: Yale University Press, 1999), 80.

    5. [S336465] Eleanor of Aquitaine: A Life, Alison Weir, (New York: Ballantine iBook, 2008), 140-141.